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Dubnyk trade ended up being way different because they made separate deals
IMO if I were to pick between Hamilton and Pesce, I'd go with Pesce. I have a feeling the price would be less in a trade and he's under a good contract for longer term.And I believe he's closer to the type of defenceman the Leafs need.
roller - I agree 100%. Only problem might be Pesce is close to untouchable. However, given the right offer, they may do it. I'm not a fan of trading Andersen. I'd rather see leafs trade Johnsson and someone else to try and get Manson from the Ducks.
Carolina and Toronto are always in the trade rumors, because they’re perfect trade partners. They each have depth where the other team lacks. Still calling for the Nylander-Pesce trade. Great vid
I like the way you put a particular idea, and want to expand on it: Freddy Andersen is not the Leafs' problem, but he is not the solution either.
Loving all the leaf content keep it up some great insight and opinions
Leafs need 3 Defensemen a goalie and a couple 240 lbs wingers that can forecheck and grind in the corners. Andersen isn't a problem until game 7.
Gospel Testimony.... Roberts is my personal favourite leaf of all time. He brought everything this team is missing up front. Hopefully they can do something up front with grit and a damn tough as nails defense man better the damn Gudas
Gary Roberts and Darcy Tucker were nowhere near 240 lbs., but imagine having two players like that again.
Love the leafs content keep it up
All I know is that the next two days should be exciting Go Leafs Go
I don't blame the leafs for starting with a high ask after Carolina held out for 1st rnd pick for Marleau.Johnsson is closer to a cap dump after injury I doubt he has much value ATM. I do think Leafs and Canes make good trading partners if they can work something out.
Dougie Hamilton would be sweet, but they might not do it. And rather than add on extra on top of Andersen why not take the next best guy andtrade Andersen for Brett Pecse, James Reimer and Carolina swaps our 13th pick back and they get the Penguins 15th.Then we trade Dermott for whatever we can get. And Pesce's cap hit of $4.025M would be completely covered by saving $1.6M on Reimer compared to Andersen and the money Dermott would have gotten. So it doesn't even add any cap strain. And if we then want to make any other upgrades we haven't worsened our cap situation.So we get a solid top pairing right shot defensemen to pair with Reilly. We get to move up a couple spots towards a pretty nice draft position. We get whatever we can get for Dermott (a pick? A decent prospect? Or maybe a 3rd pairing RD?). We get an ok goalie who can be the 1b in a tandem with Campbell. And we don't even have to stretch the cap at all to do it (i.e. any other upgrades we want to do are still feasible and not made any more difficult).Sounds like a win all around to me. Unless Andersen is worth more than that? I don't really know. If he is then just tack something else on (like an extra pick, maybe a 2nd or 3rd? Or whatever makes it a fair deal)
Problem or trouble on the right side now is can you replace 30 goals from Nylander ? Does Marner bring you more starter with a 1st round pick . Strength down the middle starts between the pipes. Then your blue line tough love the puck hard to play in front your net . Center Ice other than Mathews Traveres adding Thornton Spezza retained better down the middle but still need some size up front. Tandem goaltending instead of horse trying pull that wagon
Love the insight to your channel. From NY, but I love the Canucks. Saw the Leafs at MSG too. Anyway thanks for your channel.
I said it before, I don't know what the deal is but Haydn Fleury is an Ideal partner for Morgan Reilly.
@Over Rider Because people don't understand defensive systems, the difference between a Defensive D and an offensive one, or how they are used. You should look into it because it would give you a better understanding of the game. In a modern defensive system having an offensive D as part of one or more pairings is intended to provide a massive offensive push as part of a defensive system. Because this is risky you need a good, fast, defensive D with great puck retrieval and the ability to move the puck. The offensive D takes risks and the Defensive D protects the neutral zone and tries to keep the puck in while taking no or fewer risks.The better and more balanced the pair the more effective they are.
Fleury is defensively solid and is very quick. It would allow Reilly to move a lot more freely that’s for sure
Hayden Fleury is exactly the guy the leafs need.
How about Nylander and a 2nd for Pesce? You’d have to add extra players to make the money work. But where is Carolina going to find a 30+ goal winger in his prime for under 7M and where are the leafs going to find a good rd for 4 years at 4M/per. It lines up with their “ window” 4 more years of Matthews/Marner. The leafs will never win anything with Justin Holl as their best right D
Save Freddy! If he does go, it should be a w for 1 deal at the least. Goalie a2 for 1.
Toronto should to a 3 way deal and get a good starter goalie from team 3 while trading Freddy to the canes and the canes give up their D to both sides in return. (This is the only way it doesn't blow up in toronto's face)
Is it really what they need?
Great video like your train of thought
Leafs should ask them to throw in the zamboni driver goalie that beat them
Dougie and Rielly can you imagine Rielly would finally hit 100pt season 22G 78A and 18G 55A for Dougie Let's offer Andersen 1st and an extra player as a throw in
that's too much IMO.
Anderson and kerfoot to buffalo for ulmark, 8th pick colin miller
Anderson for Pesce. Do it!
No team has ever won the cup without a great goalie. Freddy Anderson is good, but IMHO he's not great. Granted the defences in front of him have been questionable, he has a history of giving up soft goals at exactly the wrong time. Until they get a goalie who inspires the team and scares their opponents, my beloved Leafs despite all the talent, will merely remain as contenders, as opposed to serious threats to the handful of top tier teams.
Anderson plus Kerfoot or Nylander and Kerfoot. Question is the goaltending better or worse?
I honestly think Andersen can fetch a good return considering he only owe $1 million
@Ty Dwight most players do understand that.. Nylander is a 5 million dollar player in my eyes. I think I'm not alone on that.
@ThugWarLord Gaming Nylander actually put up big # last season so the contract isn't as bad but players got to understand to win a cup you need take less money
Nylander even got more than what he was worth. He's a 5 million dollar player even less on most teams
@Ty Dwight I agree.. these are the players that care more about money then they do team and stanley cup..they say they want the cup but then they turn around and sink the whole team by taking almost half of the damn cap. Makes me sick
@ThugWarLord Gaming if Matthew and Marner want to win a championship they would of sign for a lot less so we could of add more names
Dougie use to play for the marlies and the Leafs
Anderson and Zamboni driver for hamilton
Wtf. No way are we letting the Zamboni driver go for that....lol.
Im good, hes not the Dman they need, we need Freddy more
Anderson would get a 1st round. Not 2nd..are you on crack? a team would be absolutely INSANE to let a goalie like Freddie go for a 2nd round pick lol. Or to even think that's all he's worth lol
is freddie worth anything i was never impressed with him
@Ian Watts Most people want a soccer goalie because they think highlight-reel saves where a goaltender is diving across the arena is good goaltending.
I HIGHLY doubt that Hamilton is going anywhere for multiple reasons.- He just had a Norris caliber season- He's only 27 years old- Carolina is a rising Cup contender- Slavin-Hamilton is one of the absolute best top lines in the NHL as both are Norris caliber defensemen.- Slavin-Hamilton, and Gardiner-Pesce is one of, if not the best top 4 in the entire NHL. There's no reason to ruin that, especially since they're about to reach the peak of their Cup window very soon.
Andreas already traded
freddy for pesce straight up
I like this a lot. I can't see Carolina giving up DH for Freddie and another piece (unless it's Nylander or even Robertson).
Hyman Matthews MarnerRobertson Tavares NylanderMikheyev Kerfoot Bobby Ryan Maroon Spezza SimmondsReilly DemeloMuzzin GudasSandin Lehtonen LiljegrenKorpisalo Campbell
We also have TJ Brodie
Terrible ... demelo with Reilly? Gudas? 🤦♂️
I think Freddie for Hayden Fleury is fair. Then Johnson to CBJ for Korpisalo, I hear CBJ is interested in him.
Leafs are good on the 2nd line Nylander Matthews Johnnson line 1 Hyman Tavares Marner line 2 we just need a 3rd line centre and a top 4 D man
Nylander needs to go. He waz -3 last game. William Bystander....
Bring back Zaitsev 😄
You laff fans are way too funny!! “We would probably have to a add more than Freddy for Hamilton “ Ua think??? Try adding Austen Matthews! Sound absurd? No more than you adding cast offs and 3rd and 4th line pieces for what would easily be your number 1 dman!!!There is a reason Carolina likes to trade with Toronto. They take them to the cleaners every time. For example, trading a first “in a very deep draft.
Auston* and no.
Martin Jones is one of the best goalies in the NHL
Nylander and a 2nd for Eckman-Larsson and a 1st in 2022 with Phenix taking on 3 million per year of Larsson's Salary.
i still like the idea of trading fred and getting murray. they are a wash impact wise....but murray is 26. Rewind 4 years.
I like Hamilton, but to be honest I wouldn’t even give up Freddy for him straight up let alone add more to that trade for Carolina. No way I want to trade Freddy for a defenceman who has one year left. If they made this trade and added others or prospects or the first round pick I will lose all respect for Dubas.
Your theory is kinda out there bro, freddie costs less than Hamilton and are both free agents the same season... and they want freddie plus??? Rather get pece for Johnsson plus
I wouldn’t take Reimer
Freddie, 2020 2nd and Engvall for Hamilton and 2021 3rd??
1st? To sweeten it up