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  • Andrew Piluk Hockey
    Andrew Piluk Hockey  3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

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  • Auddie James
    Auddie James 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Parayko has a huge frame, very strong on and off the puck. I'd love to see him in Toronto. Good work brother!

    • william gilbert
      william gilbert 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Auddie James not happening!

    • Tyler Duvall
      Tyler Duvall 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Auddie James - ye i agree parayko is a d man the leafs sorely need ....leafs defense is a little soft and a little small .... so adding him who is good in his own end ( thumbs wayyyy up ) would be a huge gain for the leafs !!! But nylander hell no .... gardner and kap or gardner and brown ....sure id do that ....maybe throw in pickard or lievo to sweeten the deal i dont know ....this will be interesting

  • Jamie Acosta
    Jamie Acosta 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The way this could MAYBE work is: Gardner+Johnsson+2nd+B tier prospect / 3rd-4rd. There still is way too many but’s so I doubt this will work. I just feel like Toronto has way too many rods in the water rn.

  • Steven_Dean
    Steven_Dean 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Parayko is an amazing piece and would be a perfect fit in Toronto. But he is also a great piece for St.Louis so unless they get over paid they definitely won't move Parayko. Nylander is that type of over payment.
    That being said the offer you have there actually makes sense. The Blues upgrade the offensive output from the back end, pick up a young NHL forward with top 6 potential and some young depth defence. Maybe throw in a conditional pick in 2020 depending on a Gardiner extension (2nd if he walks, 4th overwise or whatever).

  • cole leisen
    cole leisen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Berger is extremely unreliable...We are talking about a guy who was fired from Eklunds Hockeybuzz lol.
    That being said Parayko is a VERY good fit for Toronto.
    As the Leafs I would easily do your proposed trade of Gardiner+Johnsson+Carrick and i am very pro Gardiner and think Johnsson has 25 goal potential.
    That being said i do not think the Blues take that deal. I think they already have a lot of smallish skilled young wingers and dont have a huge need for Johnsson.

  • rahef issa
    rahef issa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I definitely don't agree with trading Nylander especially for someone like Parayko. You try and keep you're bonafide stars ALWAYS otherwise you end up like Edmonton. But trading Gardiner could be interesting. If the Dubas knows he won't be able to resign him (I believe he's talking with Gardiners agent about what it will cost to keep him), then I doubt that he'd let him walk for nothing. I also don't think the Leafs would feel too good about trading Johnsson before they really know what kind of a player he is. So maybe something like Gardiner, Brown, and Holl/Carrick. Anything more than that I think would be way overpaying.

  • Amir Sabatino
    Amir Sabatino 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a leaf fan I think that a fair trade would include Jake Carrick a 4ty round pick and maybe Nylander if they don't accept the first offer

  • W -
    W - 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'll say this I doubt borgman and carrick make the lineup next year. I know borgman for sure , unless he had a magic turnaround in camp. He struggled in the ahl and had no impact cause he sat towards the Calder cup finals. Carrick may find his way in the line up if he works hard in camp. But I bet we'll see the current line up to start, with a few fresh picks coming in for tryouts to start the season to see how they do.

    • Safest Assets
      Safest Assets 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I like Borgman but where would Durmott go if he made the team?

  • Dr Giggles
    Dr Giggles 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is the dumbest trade rumor ever. And here's why:
    Parayko just signed last year for 5.5m AAV. Bouwermeester is about to off contract and Parayko is taking his spot with the Blues either resigning him for less or losing him to another team.
    Further, the Blues just added a ton of scoring up front and offloaded dead weight contracts not putting up points.
    The only way Parayko leaves STL by trade is if they get someone incredible. Not necessarily because he's worth it, but because STL has no reason to part with Parayko. He's literally got the potential to be the next Chris Pronger or Al MacInnis for STL.

    • Brett Viddal
      Brett Viddal ปีที่แล้ว

      Or World Cup

    • Brett Viddal
      Brett Viddal ปีที่แล้ว

      If he had more of a mean streak?
      Yeah he could be like Pronger. I know I would want Parayko on Canada's next Olympic team.

  • Fr. Paul Hamilton
    Fr. Paul Hamilton 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is wish fulfillment, pure and simple. The Blues are way too high on Parayko, and their blue line would look vastly worse without him. The Blues are close to the salary cap, and have signed so many forwards this offseason that their scoring depth is scary, at least on paper. They have their entire core signed for at least three years, and won't mortgage because they don't need to win this year.

  • Eldon B
    Eldon B 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If this trade were to become a reality, Johnson would have to stay off the table in my mind, simply because the Leafs are already weak on the Left wing position. A better option would be Gardiner and Leivo (seeing how the chances of him cracking the line up are slim anyways) and a pick or a Borgman/Carrick. This works because Parayko can help immediately and his proven and should have an immediate impact, but if I were to play GM, Johnson would not be a part of this deal.

    • Eldon B
      Eldon B 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would probably be more comfortable with Kapanen being moved than Johnson, that is if he turns out to be half as good as I think he will be, and the fact that the Leafs have too many right-handed wingers.

    • Steven_Dean
      Steven_Dean 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The only problem there is that of Gardiner walks then St.Louis got nothing in return. Yes there is a chance Leivo and Borgman can develop into decent players but currently just as likely they don't.
      If you are subbing out Johnsson then I get the feeling Kapanen makes more sense for St.Louis to even consider it.

  • W -
    W - 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    But losing nylander(for a 15 point d, which won't happen) and to put gardener and Johnsson(who I believe if he had the chance will score 15+) is insane. Yes we need D. But to give up future talent . It's not worth it. And I feel dubas knows that. He may make one trade to help the backend. But to give up a talent such as johnsson, kapenan ect. Is idiotic and I bet dubas feels the same way. Seeming he developed these guys. I could see maybe an offer as a holl, carrick and a future draft pick for this man. But other than that I think dubas will stand firm and stick with what's available . We have some nice D in the minors who might be ready sooner than we think.

  • Ronan Cooker
    Ronan Cooker 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't think that the Blues could afford to lose Parayko. If he's gone our defensive pairing become Pietrangelo and Bouwmeester, Edmunson and Gunnarson, and Dunn and Bortuzzo. Even if the trade was Parayko for Nylander, I don't think it would benefit us very much because our offence is now so deep.

  • might33duck
    might33duck 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What do the Blues even need? Their forward group is crazy.
    Schwartz - Schenn - Tarasenko
    Steen - O'Reilly - Perron
    Maroon - Bozak - Fabbri
    Jaskin - Barbashev - Soshnikov
    Thorburn - Sundqvist - Nolan
    Plus they've got Thomas and Kyrou.
    Their D is alright. They've got Pietrangelo. And it looks like Dunn could be something. But I guess they could take Gardiner.
    The Blues did have the second worst PP last year. So Gardiner definitely would help there.
    So, what? Gardiner + a conditional 2nd (maybe like a 1st if Jake signs) + and Sparks or Pickard? (Chad Johnson's numbers last year were BAD)
    But still, that doesn't look enough. So maybe sprinkle in a prospect. Fuggin Sandin or something.
    They could also unload Bouwmeester (haven't heard anything on him since his season-ending surgery)...they'd save nearly 7mil here. (STL has almost no cap space rn)
    What do you guys think? I'm still not sure if that's even enough. Parayko looked like a fuggin stud during Worlds.

    • Andrew Piluk Hockey
      Andrew Piluk Hockey  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This comment is very insightful and informative. Thank you for not absolutely trashing the discussion piece like some other people lol. This comment makes a lot of sense and looks at both sides. I honestly doubt the trade will happen but the suggestions you through out here wouldnt be too far off I dont think.

  • Joe Friday
    Joe Friday 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like this discussion, you did look at the situation from both sides. I'm not sure that St Louis is a good dance partner. Usually you deal with a team in a position of strength. By that I mean Toronto has an abundance of forwards and St Louis has an abundance of defensemen. Does Gardiner, Johnsson and a pick make the Blues better than they are with Parayko maybe if Vince Dunn is the real deal. I like the deal from Toronto point of view. But what if the Blues ask for Liljegren in the deal do you do it then? Interesting

    • Joe Friday
      Joe Friday 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I didn't think the Blues would be wise to part with Parayko especially since they have Kyrou and Robert Thomas knocking on the door. The whole trade speculation is just that, speculation. I would do the Gardiner, Johnsson deal in a minute if I was Toronto that is why I say the Blues aren't a good dance partner Anaheim is a better bet in my opinion

    • Dr Giggles
      Dr Giggles 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Joe Friday you don't think with all the moves this offseason the Blues are strong up front? They literally got rid of the dead weight and added bonafide scorers in O'Reilly, Perron, Bozak and Maroon.
      The Blues can't take on anymore forwards at this point and definitely not one that's gonna want over 4 or 5 per year. Parayko is the future face of the D core and is almost at Pietrangelo level at such a young age. When this dude is 28 to 30 he's going to be one of the most reliable D men in the league. Hell, he almost is already.
      Nylander wouldn't work because we would have to include other pieces to keep the salary difference even, and there's nothing else you're gonna throw in without destroying what the Blues have put together this far into the offseason.

  • Jim Davis
    Jim Davis 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like Borgman and Holle, these guys are going to shine on D.

  • Francois Paradis
    Francois Paradis 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Congrats 3K!! keep up the great job

  • Thomas Goudy
    Thomas Goudy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Sorry but I cant see St. Louis sending Parayko to Toronto for anything right now. Don't get me wrong, the Blues are smart and if Toronto offered something that was a huge win for the Blues I'm sure they would take it, but other than that the trades you talked about would not happen.
    St. Louis is set up perfectly right now. Over the last two years they added the offensive pieces they needed down the center (Schenn, O'Riely, Bozak) they brought in another top 6 forward (Perron) and are getting Fabbri back this year. All of that combined with the current goal scorers on the roster (Tarasenko, Schwarts, Steen) PLUS the prospects that are expected earn playing time (Nolan, Barbashev, Thomas) there just inst a need for any other offensive pieces right now.
    As far as defense goes, the Blues have built one of the best back ends in the league and a huge part of that is Pietrangelo and Parayko. Parayko is still young and IMO has the potential to be one of the best two way D-men in the league. The kid can score and has one of, if not the hardest shot in the league. The Blues have him signed to a cap friendly salary for the next 4 season, so this just doesn't make sense to trade him for forwards with expiring contracts.
    My final thought is that the Blues only pull the trigger if this is a total win on their side. No offense to the Toronto but they need this trade more than the Blues do. Other than that there is no way we will see Parayko in a Leafs jersey any time soon.

  • Tracked RS
    Tracked RS 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Personally I think the blues would obviously start with "we want Nylander" but i think the leafs could counter with something like, Dermot & Brown? don't really want to let either of those guys go but to get a guy who is as sturdy as Paranko on the back end that's also only making 5.5 for 4 more seasons is too hard to pass up..
    (For this year specifically after this trade)
    Marleau - Matthews - Nylander
    Hymen - Tavares - Marner
    Johnnson - Kadri - Kapenen
    Leivo - Lindholm - Ennis
    Rielly - Paranko
    Gardner - Hainsey
    Carick - Zeitsev

  • Jack Frost
    Jack Frost 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Howard Berger is awesome and knows his shit miss his updates on the fan. Would love to know the reason he left. Leafs aren't doing anything else till the fall the earliest.

  • R. Owens90
    R. Owens90 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gardiner, Carrick, Johnsson and a late pick for Parayko? I'd do that trade in a heart beat.
    Rielly - Parayko
    Dermott - Zaitsev
    Holl - Hainsey/ Rosen/Borgman/Liljegren/Ozhiganov?
    I don't mind that blue line. It's very young and will need time to grow together, but that's much better than the current defense. Young, mobile defenseman on each pairing with a solid defensive D-man to back them up. Only Defenseman on there I don't really like is Zaitsev, but he could very well have a bounceback season this year.

  • Mighty Macaque
    Mighty Macaque 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gardner is already a top 4 defenceman. It shouldn't be the leafs sending more than 1 prospect and/ or a mid-late round pick to get a more defense sensitive top 4 d-man in my opinion. If they ask for more than that I'd hang up the phone.

  • glenn d
    glenn d 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Seriously why is every single trade rumour that involves Toronto always has the Leafs receiving an awesome player with them not having to give up anything. It is beyond ridiculous and these rumours never come to anything. Parayko is not going to Toronto for what is offered in this rumour, period.

    • Luchoveli
      Luchoveli 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      This guy sounds Salty 🤣🤣

    • Jen Calderone
      Jen Calderone 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Auston Matthews exactly! I hate those people that just hate the Leafs for no reason. I think it's pure jealousy.

    • Jen Calderone
      Jen Calderone 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Chris Newby but it is the point. You didnt have to go out of your way to watch this video about a team that you cant stand listening to the rumours about lol. No offense but are you stupid? You know that this channel is all about The Leafs, so here is the easiest thing.. if you dont like it, dont come on here and listen. It really is that easy. You hate the rumours that come out of Leafs Nation? Well guess what? Leafs Nation HATES it when people who dont like the team, which you obviously dont, to get involved in anything. It's the oddest thing. If there was a team I didnt like, I wouldn't be going onto there fans pages or anything having to do with them.

    • Andrew Piluk Hockey
      Andrew Piluk Hockey  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Chris Newby People who think that its only Leaf fans that have fun with rumours have blinders on. Its everywhere and its with every fan base. The Leafs have a very very large group of fans. Some who yes maybe will get out of hand but most just have fun with the rumours. Like I said, nobody is saying this is going to happen. All the suggestions for trades in the comments is because in the video I asked what people would offer if they were the GM. Ill say it again.. its the offseason... this is just for fun. You said it yourself, you dont have to watch.

  • kevin b
    kevin b 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would say Leivo go before Andreas or Kappy. How about Gardiner, Leivo and Sparks. Teams are ridiculous today with the asking prices.

  • L B
    L B 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    We still need to replace JVR. I doubt the Leafs would give those two up.

  • C Wolbers
    C Wolbers 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think William for Colton would be fair for both sides. But the leafs don’t “need” to pull the trigger on a deal they don’t “win” because they are the much better club on paper. The leafs are looking like a top seed candidate and the blues are trying to be playoff contenders. But William for Colton is good for the leafs because Colton’s contract won’t be as expensive long term and I think he’s just as valuable. And honestly even more valuable considering the leafs give up some goals in the trade and that’s what they can afford to lose the most. They get back a top pairing defender who can play everywhere. He’s an A+ option for the pp, the pk, 5v5, 4v4, and in OT. He can play big minutes, he’s more versatile the William and will ultimately cost less in a long term deal. And it looks like the only thing that can stop the leafs from creating a dynasty is the cap. Butttt personally id tell St. Louis they can have jake Gardner and co for Colton. If this happens the leafs look as scary as the lightning do on paper. Which is insane.

  • Zoe Dilks
    Zoe Dilks 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would probably cry if Parayko got traded

  • J Talks335
    J Talks335 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would love if he came but it wouldn’t make sense on the st louis side

  • william gilbert
    william gilbert 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Parayko stays in St. Louis... he has booming shot, and potentially a twenty goal Dman.. plus he has a signed deal at a decent price.

  • Bill Verge
    Bill Verge 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    "IF" this is a legitimate rumor, id trade Gardiner,Johnsson,Carrick, 3rd, for Parayko in a NY minute!!

  • Braeden’s Broadcasting Channel
    Braeden’s Broadcasting Channel 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You’d have to give up Kapanen and a first probably worth it him and Reilly would make a great pair.

    • Lucas Visser
      Lucas Visser 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Braeden’s Broadcasting Channel no no I do... kapanen is just my favourite player haha I think his work ethic is unmatched on the leafs and it just hurts to see him go. The leafs would become even more of a monster and parayko has a nice contract for like 5 years right? Would be hard to make cap space for the 3 kids and him without dumping Gardiner. It’s like selling your baby you know? I want to have my cake and eat it too.

    • Braeden’s Broadcasting Channel
      Braeden’s Broadcasting Channel 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lucas Visser I don’t think you know how good Parayko is haha. The leafs need D Men especially for the future your gonna need to give away a piece for him. The Blues might even reject Kapanen and a first.

    • Lucas Visser
      Lucas Visser 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Braeden’s Broadcasting Channel kapanen is a potential first liner in a couple years... if they feel they can’t afford him next year then yes sure but kapanen is too much untapped potential for that

  • Michael Sukut
    Michael Sukut 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I like Parayko but no trading Nylander please

  • Intentional Offside
    Intentional Offside 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Perhaps they try for Trouba in exchange for Kadri or Kapanen & a draft pick.

  • Blues Lover
    Blues Lover 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This makes zero sense for the Blues. If the Blues do move Parayko it will take a very handsome return.

  • i liek gaems
    i liek gaems 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    exactly how i felt dude, you earned yourself a subscriber

  • ThreshR
    ThreshR 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why dont the leafs do something like gardiner, brown, and a 1st round pick for parayko? They could add a little more if it isnt enough

  • Christopher Scott
    Christopher Scott 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hahahaha, you guys all screwed the pooch on this one. St. Louis isnt making that trade. They definitely wouldn't take any of the players you guys mentioned.

  • Brendan Alimony
    Brendan Alimony 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Leivo, Gardiner, Carrick, and a 1st for Parayko

  • Brownlogs
    Brownlogs 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Johnsson has huge potential. It would be a mistake.

  • Brian Elston
    Brian Elston 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Preseason game 1 in 49 days!

    • Andrew Ramsay
      Andrew Ramsay 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      45

    • Fat Tony
      Fat Tony 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Brian Elston 47 now 👍

  • Caleb C
    Caleb C 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Entertaining thoughts on Parayko? Blues don't even answer the phone unless you answer with Nylander or Marner. Gardiner, plus a 2/3rd round, plus your AHL call up fodder is not gonna work.

  • A SE
    A SE 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's way too much to give up. I'd do Gardner plus leivo and a draft pick

  • Jo mama
    Jo mama 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The last thing the leafs need is offence from their D! Go get Tyson Barrie!!

  • Ben Campbell
    Ben Campbell 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really don't want to see the leafs move Nylander. Gardiner is good defenseman but he is too offensively minded for this team. The leafs need defensemen who can get the puck out of our end quickly and let the offense go to work.

  • Dbrownss
    Dbrownss 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Baseless rumors are not a discussion piece. The Blues are not shopping Parayko.
    Now...lets look at this from the Blues perspective. They have poor RHD depth outside of Pietrangelo and Parayko. Gardiner is a LHD. Their 2nd pairing RHD would be Bortuzzo, and isnt replacing Parayko's 24min a night defense.
    As for Johnsson, he's not on the Blues roster, end of story. So he doesn't help the Blues who are looking to contend.
    This rumor is lopsided, and does not address the needs for St. Louis.

    • Andrew Piluk Hockey
      Andrew Piluk Hockey  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dbrownss well luckily this is my channel and I wanted to discuss it. Plus you just discussed it so..

  • Bailey Toulouse
    Bailey Toulouse 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Do not put William Nylander in that. That would be so dumb, Put Gardiner, Prospect, And A 2-3 Round Pick.

    • Beans of Morgan Pictures
      Beans of Morgan Pictures 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      For sure, quite a few of my Canadian brothers will be cheerin for em on tv this season, I'll for sure be at least watching a few Blues games, Bozak is a big deal in TO, Leaf fans wanna see him do well and Leaf haters wanna see him do so well Leaf fans will regret losing him, on top of that there are the leaf fans that absolutely loved Bozak n saw him as our true Captain and may even go to cheerin for the Blues outta spite. Some people are downright pissed off that Leafs didn't re-sign him well that and we legit think your putting together an excellent team, all this tells me I'm likely gonna be seeing more Blues jerseys than usual being worn in Canada soon. I can only imagine how home fans in St. Louis area feel about this team, must be exciting times.

    • Anthony Holmes
      Anthony Holmes 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Beans of Morgan Pictures i dont think were in danger of over tinkering when it comes to offense. There was no way to fix the issue without doing so. So If we were in danger of that they may have already done it. They essentially cut loose 5 inconsistent players and and brought in 4 more productive players. And the blues arent exactly a super team in my opinion. Like you said they will make the playoffs.

    • Beans of Morgan Pictures
      Beans of Morgan Pictures 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ya like i said before you probably don't need it even if ur GM is desperate for a cup run, he should at least wait a season first and see how this group works together and better asses what they need to make that run rather than trying to go out and get it now, you put a nice group together this summer, am fairly certain youll be in the playoffs at the very least with these guys. That should be enough for now, there is such a thing as over-tinkering.

    • Anthony Holmes
      Anthony Holmes 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Beans of Morgan Pictures well Gardiner is a whole lot like shattenkirk. You put a guy like that with a really good stay at home defensman. Im not saying gardiner is not great or has all these holes. Im saying the blues arent in need of a defensman really of any sort. Even with the blues being ranked at like #6 in goals against it was still a down year for for theyre defense. They had quite a bit of break downs. They should be a top 3 defense this year. Even with all the moves the blues made the thing they still need most is a legit superstar foward. Im talking at the Taransenko level. Someone else who speaks that same language to take pressure off him and get him to that 50 goal level and perhaps get themselves to the 80 to 100 pts mark. They are a great team already. But there is another level offensively they could reach. Its that same level the leafs could very well reach this season.

    • Beans of Morgan Pictures
      Beans of Morgan Pictures 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If I was your GM n making a run for the cup n not able to get Nylander for him I'd go with Gardiner and Kapenen, (with a pick or a prospect or something) mostly cuz as a leaf fan I'd most hate to see Kappy go, the kid has skills, he can play on the PK he's fast as hell, and he has a really good puck sense developing, he just swipes it outta nowhere sometimes and they don't see it coming so he gets a breakaway now granted he missed or got stopped by the goalie on more of those breakaway shots than he scored, still he had a lot of breakaways last season and do you know when he did score on one in the playoffs, while killing a penalty. He could help your team believe me, this guy gets better all the time put him with the talent your Blues got goin now, give him a try on the PK he would produce for yas,,, maybe put him on that 3rd line with Bozak, it'll be a tough line to beat no matter who on the blues you put em with, and on top of that this kid is only going to get better as he gets older, I know Leaf fans give Gardiner a hard time, but he produces mad points for us, and he had a big part in the numbers we put up last season, sure he makes the occasional mistake but people go all nuts over it like he shot a puppy, he's one of the top point producers on the team, give the guy a break. Besides your D at it's core is better than ours so am sure you can pair him with someone who can organize a backup plan for scenarios like that. Don't think it will happen anyways it's all hypothetical, to tell you the truth I think both our teams will do very well next season whether they trade with each other or not.

  • Brooke -
    Brooke - 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why would the Blues trade Parayko?

  • jeff fishcer
    jeff fishcer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Colton Parayko is better than Reilly. Ask yourself, would you trade Reilly and Johnsson for Reilly? Hell no. Nylander + for Parayko isn't even worth it for the Blues. It would have to be Matthews in order to get Parayko out of St. Louis.

  • Luchoveli
    Luchoveli 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    We should trade Nylander now for this guy!! This video is Making sense watching this today

  • Zain
    Zain 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    nylander is a 60 point player WHEN HE HAS A BAD SEASON

  • Cody
    Cody 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not much cap space between either team

  • Brett Viddal
    Brett Viddal ปีที่แล้ว

    Parayko is one of the last Dmen Armstrong would give up.
    Faulk for Nylander?

  • Shane Beaulne
    Shane Beaulne 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i would do nylander for parayko...

  • Dave Araujo
    Dave Araujo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would never make that trade. Noooo way never.

  • Michael Baldassarra
    Michael Baldassarra 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    that would be amazing ‼️

  • Bill Blast
    Bill Blast 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nylander is not going anywhere. Dubas promised JT the main core would remain intact during his pitch. Remember "We Can and We Will". Carrick and Leivo will be healthy scratches. I believe we have RH defenceman just waiting to showcase his talents.....Igor Ozhiganov. When Hainsey leaves at the end of next season that would create 1 opening. Decisions need to be made with mangement. I can't see Rosen, Borgman, Holl, Subban and maybe even Liljegren playing their career in the AHL, there's just not enough room for everyone. The possibility of having 2 RH defenceman would be great

  • Johan Jonsson
    Johan Jonsson 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I Remember another Swede Was Traded to Blues from THE Leffs.....Alex Steen says Hi! Ooh. And Captain of the Islanders Hall Of Famer Kenny Jönsson says Hi as well! And Stanley Cup Winner Fredrik Modin that Was Traded to Tampa senda His Regards. And Anton Strålman senda His best! So. Yes. Trade Nylander and then Weep when he ends a top 20 Scorer in Next 2-3 season.

    • Andrew Piluk Hockey
      Andrew Piluk Hockey  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Who said I want to trade Nylander lol Hes one of my favourites

  • Safest Assets
    Safest Assets 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gardner, Holl and Carrick all have zero trade value. A Patrayko deal would cost a significant roster player like Kadri plus a pick- otherwise trading Patrayko makes no sense at all for the Blues. The Leafs will not be willing to do that so I don't see it happening. I would love to have Patrayko but it would cost a lot more than commenters think.

    • Safest Assets
      Safest Assets 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I meant in a trade like this, they would have no value. There is no guarantee Gardner would resign and Holl/Carrick are not proven players yet. There would be too much risk for the Blues.

    • Andrew Piluk Hockey
      Andrew Piluk Hockey  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry but forget the Parayko trade.. Gardiner had 52 points last season. How is that not trade value? Also Holl and Carrick have upside. Regardless of this deal to say they have no trade value is borderline crazy. It would for sure cost a lot to get Parayko if that deal were to happen. Its not going to though.

  • Thomas Moore
    Thomas Moore 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jake and josh. thats it.! if the blues want d- points and some help on powerplay

  • DJSums17
    DJSums17 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Paralyko and Fabbri
    For
    Gardiner, Johnsson, Carrick and 2nd?

  • ChimpokoBro
    ChimpokoBro 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Parayko not comin here. Gardener won’t leave for crazy money. Why would he want to leave this team

  • Tel Ephone
    Tel Ephone 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    We need a good d-man. But not if it costs Wee Willy Nylander.

  • Brian Angus
    Brian Angus 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Toronto trying to trade for good defence and give more less quality players back in return

    • Brian Angus
      Brian Angus 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Andrew Piluk Hockey yes totally agree

    • Andrew Piluk Hockey
      Andrew Piluk Hockey  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Brian Angus this deal wont happen but giving up a 52 point d man and a young controllable asset and probably more isnt a bad deal. What if a first was included? Makes it look a lot better. Maybe even another good or decent prospect. Like I said it wont happen but its fun to discuss.

  • Mike Preston-Engel
    Mike Preston-Engel 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Like I said before, turn Gardiner into a winger because he's no d-man, and then the Blues would have an offensive man who could pinch in as a "d-man" when the Blues become desperate.
    And please quit mentioning Nylander? I get what you're saying but he's hands off.
    How about Gardiner and Kapanen straight up.
    P.S. You're overrating Parayko just a little bit.

    • Andrew Piluk Hockey
      Andrew Piluk Hockey  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mike Preston-Engel Im not overrating Parayko at all. Gardiner will never be a winger and Ill say it again. No Leaf fan wants to get rid of Nylander. But I cant just sit here and act like the Blues wouldnt start by asking for him. Being extremely biased is not good.

  • Ed
    Ed 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Nylander is off limits I don't care if it's for a top 4 d man

    • ThugWarLord Gaming
      ThugWarLord Gaming 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Rick Gross I agree 100%.. There's a 100 players better then Nylander the Leafs can get for way cheaper and give them Nylander! The leafs hype there players to be better then they actually are... then other teams fall for the bait lol.

    • SeersTmw
      SeersTmw 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rick Gross Mathews had a extremely poor playoffs aswell he couldn’t compete with the bruins play style at all..

    • Deleted User
      Deleted User 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Anyway, he will sign for 7+ million. Just remember this conversation in 2 years, he isn't worth it and will hurt the team at that price.

    • Deleted User
      Deleted User 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Okay winger to winger possession stats, one is 60%+ corsi other is 52+... it's a huge difference. It's a 20 point differential... yes McDavid does make a lot more than Tavares. That would be the comparison point wise. Again, you had two players playing with elite centers, one has better stats in every facet of the game, even face offs, you can't pay the worse player in every aspect a comparable amount.

    • Corey Rees
      Corey Rees 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Scott R Tavares only had 84 last year, I suppose you think they over paid him as well ? Only should have gotten what Pasty did ? Gtfoh with that bullshit logic

  • Tyler Duvall
    Tyler Duvall 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Id give them gardner + brown and maybe throw in pickard to sweeten the deal , or swap kap with brown but to give nylander for this guy not worth it for me

  • W -
    W - 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nylander is a future all star

  • soccergrimmie
    soccergrimmie 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Unrelated but thoughts on the Roberto Osuna trade?

    • soccergrimmie
      soccergrimmie 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Andrew Piluk Hockey Agreed. Shame on Houston. Manfred yall needa ban this dude

    • Eric Benevides
      Eric Benevides 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I never wanted to see him in a jays jersy again so i am happy hes gone

    • Andrew Piluk Hockey
      Andrew Piluk Hockey  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He did something very wrong and the Jays got a good return from the trade so Im happy!

  • Ty Croll
    Ty Croll 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    GARDINER + JOHNSSON?? YEAH RIGHT!!

  • Irish ducky
    Irish ducky 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I start the bidding at 2 virgins to the hockey gods for paranko it's gonna be expensive

  • AndyG0027
    AndyG0027 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    johnnson is going to be a star. Honestly I'd almost rather they trade nylander.

  • D Payne
    D Payne 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Draft and develop. If that is the going rate for a top pair d man then forget it. Draft your own. I haven't seen Parayko play so I'm guessing he's a top pair guy. Why else give up Gards Johnsson and a pick. Draft your own guys and be patient. Leafs are a young team, no need to trade assets.

  • Dillon Hume  🏒
    Dillon Hume 🏒 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    If they are gonna trade for a defense man..... They shouldn't trade a top 4 defense man

  • Ethan Moniz
    Ethan Moniz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    obi they are not trading nylander but if the blues are asking for him the trade would start would start with parayko it definitively would not be straight up

  • Ariana Nicolas
    Ariana Nicolas 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    If Dubas called me asking for Parayko. And said blah blah blah and Jake Gardiner.
    I wouldn't say anything. I would just compile the highlights of game 7 against Boston and send it right back.

    • Ariana Nicolas
      Ariana Nicolas 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And yeah man. No hate. But i feel it would be a bigger package if a 1 for 1 (Nylander) doesn't happen.

  • Angelo Ginocchi
    Angelo Ginocchi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nylander isn’t going anywhere

  • John Bro
    John Bro 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    LOL not a chance in hell, Leafs give Jake (Who puts up more points then Parayko), a Calder Cup MVP, a draft pick and Nylander for Paryko? More like for Tarasenko.

  • Easy_Nator_Gamer
    Easy_Nator_Gamer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's pronounced "Burger" Howard Berger lolz. There's a great video of former leafs coach Ron Wilson losing his sh@t on Berger during a press conference for asking a dumb question :)

    • Andrew Piluk Hockey
      Andrew Piluk Hockey  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don’t follow every reporter in the history of the sport let alone my favourite teams reporters. Thats a waste of time lol But thanks for the info.

  • joe gladue
    joe gladue 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Parayko aint going no where quit tryna make smoke when theres no fire!!!

  • Tim Starkes
    Tim Starkes 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Take nyjander and Gardiner for him. We need a guy who can get pucks

  • Bubbles
    Bubbles 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like trading hockey cards

  • All right then.
    All right then. 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Berger is pronounced Burger.

  • DAVID PATTERSON
    DAVID PATTERSON 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jonahsson no will nylander no way.

  • Dillon Hume  🏒
    Dillon Hume 🏒 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Tavares to The Blue for Patrengalo...... Jk jk 😂

    • Sia Dab
      Sia Dab 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dillon Hume very funny hahaha

  • LARCENY #30
    LARCENY #30 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    His name is pronounced as Burger

  • Ty Croll
    Ty Croll 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Gardiner + Early Pick = Parayko

    • william gilbert
      william gilbert 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ty Croll that’s laughable

    • Ty Croll
      Ty Croll 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's what a fair trade would be in my opinion. We're not going to overpay by any more of a margin than that. Gardiner is a 50+ point defenceman, Parayko is not. They're a different kind of asset obviously and a 1 for 1 should almost be enough. We're certainly not about to throw away Johnsson like that.

    • dangular95
      dangular95 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ty Croll in a perfect world

  • Steven Loeffler
    Steven Loeffler 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I Dont think Toronto can afford all these players 😂

    • Mmm M
      Mmm M 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      "We can and we will" - Dubas

    • Andrew Piluk Hockey
      Andrew Piluk Hockey  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Steven Loeffler ya because it would work

    • Steven Loeffler
      Steven Loeffler 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Andrew Piluk Hockey Ahh I havnt checked the leafs cap space in a while 😂

    • Andrew Piluk Hockey
      Andrew Piluk Hockey  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes they can. Look at their cap. If you trade Gardiner at 4 million on the cap and Johnsson's 800k on the cap and trade for Parayko who is making 5.5 on the cap then the Leafs would only be spending an extra 700k for a top pairing d man. How wouldnt that work?

  • W -
    W - 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Subbed and notifs on. You ever play aaa puck in the GTA . I swear I seen you before

  • IamFonix
    IamFonix 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hate these Nylander trade rumors, leave the kid alone. He's not going anywhere.

  • moral
    moral 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    bye bye kadri

  • Rick Nugent
    Rick Nugent 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Howard ber sher
    Haha ok bud

  • Thor son of Odin
    Thor son of Odin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gardiner conor brown holll and a second rounder

  • Everythings good Deli
    Everythings good Deli 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    LEAFS R POO EITHER WAY

  • gretsyuk13
    gretsyuk13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No no no.

    • David
      David 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fash out this isn’t a Leafs channel. It’s a hockey channel and Andrew is a Leafs fan. Notice all the videos about other teams? That’d be like saying Post2Post is a Canadiens channel, or THG is a Canucks/ Bruins channel.

    • gretsyuk13
      gretsyuk13 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks bud. Good luck actually not losing the 1st round

  • blackwolf073
    blackwolf073 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Carrick,Gardner and a 4th! Gardner's salary is a bonus along with his points.

  • bouncer claws
    bouncer claws 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's nylander or kadri for pareko or nothing

  • Jim Swayne
    Jim Swayne ปีที่แล้ว

    hi to everyone

  • bdt1989
    bdt1989 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    TOR gets: Parayko, 5th round pick
    STL gets: Gardiner, Liljegren, 3rd round pick.
    We give up a decent defenceman in Gardiner who is a UFA after 1 year, and then they can roll the dice on Liljegren. While Liljegren was a 2017 1st rounder, he fell all the way to 17 and five other defenceman were picked before him in that draft. He is destined to be a solid blueliner I'm sure but I'm okay with giving him up for a big right handed young defenceman with term in Parayko.

    • bdt1989
      bdt1989 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd be cool giving Johnsson.

  • Nudzessle q
    Nudzessle q 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like Parayko and could be the face of that blue line if aquired
    Edit: Blues give: Parayko 1st rounder and Allen Leafs give: Nylander Andersen and a 2nd or 3rd
    Why? Andersen has been inconsistent and Allen had a rough year let's be honest they need a fresh start, St Louis would give up the first probably to make the deal for the leafs a little more enticing while still getting back a 2nd or 3rd. This trades a little off but like Andrew said just have fun with it

    • Jen Calderone
      Jen Calderone 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nite glider where did you hear that from??!! Andersen was amazing last year. Don Cherry talked and talked about he was the best goalie in the entire league. You might want to watch some more Leafs games this season

    • Andrew S
      Andrew S 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      andersen was 4th in vezina voting.....should speak to how consistent he was. assuming nylander and parayko are a wash your deal is basically allen + 1st for andersen + 2nd + 3rd...thats pretty bad. Andersen is one of the top goalies in the league and Allen just had a year where compared to the blues other tender his gaa was +0.66 and his sv% was -0.025. thats bad man, bad.

    • Kevin Furtado
      Kevin Furtado 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jordy Jacks hahaha

    • Andrew Piluk Hockey
      Andrew Piluk Hockey  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i think he was joking around

    • Nudzessle q
      Nudzessle q 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sir Deans that's true, I didn't watch a lot of Maple Leafs games this year and I just heard that he had some consistentcy issues but then again that's why you'd also get Parayko with it I guess

  • Macky
    Macky 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    First.

    • Macky
      Macky 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Andrew Piluk Hockey Right on bro :)

    • Andrew Piluk Hockey
      Andrew Piluk Hockey  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Awesome man thanks for coming in and discussing hockey! Thats what its all about.

    • Macky
      Macky 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Andrew Piluk Hockey I hate people who comment "first" in comments. But I didn't have time to be first, state I'm 1st and mock it properly. I enjoy your vids and appreciate the fact you tolerate my opinions. Its been fun so far. Thanks.

    • Bam Bam
      Bam Bam 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh yeah soo cool.

    • Andrew Piluk Hockey
      Andrew Piluk Hockey  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      cool!